can my dell 2004 run full vista

can my dell from 2004 run the "Full" vista?

Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

That computer sounds great... yet 512MB is the minimum recommendation for RAM. If you could put another stick of RAM in there to mak it 1GB, that'd make it sweet :o)
I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass
Other than that, yeh sounds great! :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message

Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse
Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

Yes, it can run Vista, I am just not sure if your video card has support for the Windows Device Driver Model, (although the minimum requirements to get Glass is a 64-MB video card, if it is supported, your experience might not be so good. You need to check ATI to find that out. Overall, its a nice system for Vista, you might want to up the RAM and acquire a new video card. I notice when I had up to 20 windows open on my nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP, it got a bit groggy and non responsive at times.
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=5712 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"michael
e dziatkowicz" wrote in message

Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. (Do you dream this stuff up?)
The minimum requirements does not state that 64-MBs of vRAM is not supported. It said that the display adapter on a PC must support Direct X 9 with Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware, 32 bits per pixel and Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) support. Depending on your desktop resolution, Windows Vista Aero will set the appropriate resolution according to what your card supports.
64 MB of graphics memory to suppor a single monitor at resolution of 1,310,720 pixeks (equivalent to 1280 x 1024) or less. The only drawback for Michael possibly is performance, that is even if his card supports WDDM. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

That computer sounds great... yet 512MB is the minimum recommendation for RAM. If you could put another stick of RAM in there to mak it 1GB, that'd make it sweet :o)
I'm
also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass
Other than that, yeh sounds great! :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem
56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

its really sad that vista is so badly made that a great laptop like that cannot run it.....
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message

Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard
Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard
Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD
or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message

its really sad that vista is so badly made that a great laptop like that cannot run it.....
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

Yeah right! Lol... you live in a world of illusion.. just wait unitl you install some programs on that... and it will go as fast as a rock on a lazy day.....
There is a big reason behind the monsterous hardware needs of vista that is not apparent at first.... can you imagine what it is?
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message its really sad that vista is so badly made that a great laptop like that cannot run it.....
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

In order to run Windows Vista 64 Bit Edition: You will need to have a 600 Series or Newer Intel Pentium 4 Processor (because the 500 Series Processor's don't have EM64T), however you should be able to run Windows Vista 32 Bit Edition just fine with a 500 Series Intel Pentium 4 Processor.
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message

Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory
512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem
56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

I said that because I know you've got a 64MB card as you've previously said and can't get Glass... however..

(although the minimum requirements to get Glass is a 64-MB video card, if it is supported, your experience might not be so good. You need to check ATI to find that out.

Yeh I see what you mean in that - you posted that some time ago, but I stand corrected. 128MB card would be better though!
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. (Do you dream this stuff up?)
The minimum requirements does not state that 64-MBs of vRAM is not supported. It said that the display adapter on a PC must support Direct X 9 with Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware, 32 bits per pixel and Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) support. Depending on your desktop resolution, Windows Vista Aero will set the appropriate resolution according to what your card supports.
64 MB of graphics memory to suppor a single monitor at resolution of 1,310,720 pixeks (equivalent to 1280 x 1024) or less. The only drawback for Michael possibly is performance, that is even if his card supports WDDM. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message That computer sounds great... yet 512MB is the minimum recommendation for RAM. If you could put another stick of RAM in there to mak it 1GB, that'd make it sweet :o)
I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass
Other
than that, yeh sounds great! :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse
Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem
56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

P.S. I am referring to the Intel Pentium 4 Processor Series Number, just FYI.
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

In order to run Windows Vista 64 Bit Edition: You will need to have a 600 Series or Newer Intel Pentium 4 Processor (because the 500 Series Processor's don't have EM64T), however you should be able to run Windows Vista 32 Bit Edition just fine with a 500 Series Intel Pentium 4 Processor.
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem
56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.

My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message

Yeah right! Lol... you live in a world of illusion.. just wait unitl you install some programs on that... and it will go as fast as a rock on a lazy day.....
There is a big reason behind the monsterous hardware needs of vista that is not apparent at first.... can you imagine what it is?
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
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"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message its really sad that vista is so badly made that a great laptop like that cannot run it.....

Thats because its onboard memory (integrated graphics chipset), to support Aero Glass with onboard memory, you would have to have 1 GB of dual channel memory, with 512 allocated to the system and the rest to the video card. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

I said that because I know you've got a 64MB card as you've previously said and can't get Glass... however..
(although the minimum requirements to get Glass is a 64-MB video card, if it is supported, your experience might not be so good. You need to check ATI to find that out.
Yeh I see what you mean in that - you posted that some time ago, but I stand corrected. 128MB card would be better though!
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. (Do you dream this stuff up?)
The
minimum requirements does not state that 64-MBs of vRAM is not supported. It said that the display adapter on a PC must support Direct X 9 with Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware, 32 bits per pixel and Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) support. Depending on your desktop resolution, Windows Vista Aero will set the appropriate resolution according to what your card supports.
64 MB of graphics memory to suppor a single monitor at resolution of 1,310,720 pixeks (equivalent to 1280 x 1024) or less. The only drawback for Michael possibly is performance, that is even if his card supports WDDM. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message That computer sounds great... yet 512MB is the minimum recommendation for RAM. If you could put another stick of RAM in there to mak it 1GB, that'd make it sweet :o)
I'm also sure that generally 64MB video cards cannot get Glass (not saying it can't be done, but it's not ideal).. If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass
Other than that, yeh sounds great! :o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center EditionDimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dimension 4600 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB), Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition Dell Dimension 4600 Series Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology (3.40GHz, 800 FSB) WMB348H [221-4131]
Memory 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x256M) 512M4 [311-9002]
Keyboard Dell Wireless Keyboard and Optical Mouse WIREKM [310-4164]
Monitor SAVE $150! New 17 in E172FP Flat Panel Display E172FPP [462-8471]
Video Card New 64MB ATI ALL-IN-WONDER® 9000 with Remote Control 64AIW [320-1580] [320-2575]
Hard Drive 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) 160S [341-0565]
Floppy Drive and Additional Storage Devices 3.5 in Floppy Drive and 64MB Dell USB Memory Key FD64MK [340-8860] [341-0217]
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition WMCE [420-3931] [412-0688] [463-2282]
Mouse Mouse included in Dell Wireless Package N [310-1966]
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-2279]
Document Management Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705]
CD or DVD Drive Dual Drives: 48x CD-ROM Drive + 16x DVD+RW/+R w/ double layer write capable CD16DVR [313-2746] [430-0945] [430-0951]
Sound Sound Blaster AudigyT2 (D) Card w/Dolby 5.1, and IEEE 1394 capability
Will it be able to run windows media center edition with aero glass or will i need to get a new video card right away. I'd rather wait for the new video cards that can do 2 way digital cable to come out first.


Can you tell me the number of applications you have installed, (You can see the number of folders in Program files for a quick estimate) and how many large applications (like Office or Photoshop for example) you have installed?
thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message Yeah right! Lol... you live in a world of illusion.. just wait unitl you install some programs on that... and it will go as fast as a rock on a lazy day.....
There is a big reason behind the monsterous hardware needs of vista that is not apparent at first.... can you imagine what it is?
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message its really sad that vista is so badly made that a great laptop like that cannot run it.....

The current build I have not installed hardly anything. The last build had many including Office 2003, FS 2004, CFS3, Nero 6, AVG and others. All of them worked flawlessly.
Looking at the installed programs does not really say much, how the program performs says a lot, actual performance suggests my computer functions well.
If you are having problems even after reinstalling, you possibly have a hardware issue. Possibly dissimilar memory sticks etc.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message

Can you tell me the number of applications you have installed, (You can see the number of folders in Program files for a quick estimate) and how many large applications (like Office or Photoshop for example) you have installed?
thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org

Zack Whittaker schrieb:

... If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass ....


....which leads only to the original source which is located at
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsat/winsat/winsatinfolevel1_struct.asp>
roy

Course it does - but I sourced it, and somehow I find it easier to read it simply in bold text basically what you need rather than trolling through lines and lines of miscellaneous stuff.
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--: Original message follows :-- "Roy Coorne" wrote in message

Zack Whittaker schrieb:
... If you want to see the minumim requirements for Glass, check here :o) http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?subcats/graphics/minimumreqglass ...
...which leads only to the original source which is located at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsat/winsat/winsatinfolevel1_struct.asp
roy

Those Programs you just mentioned do NOT run at all for me with Build 5308 CTP.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

The current build I have not installed hardly anything. The last build had many including Office 2003, FS 2004, CFS3, Nero 6, AVG and others. All of them worked flawlessly.
Looking at the installed programs does not really say much, how the program performs says a lot, actual performance suggests my computer functions well.
If
you are having problems even after reinstalling, you possibly have a hardware issue. Possibly dissimilar memory sticks etc.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message Can you tell me the number of applications you have installed, (You can see the number of folders in Program files for a quick estimate) and how many large applications (like Office or Photoshop for example) you have installed?
thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org

5308 is what I was referring to when I said "last build". MS Train Simulator works well on the current Build 5342.
Check for Vista drivers etc. As I said before, incompatible memory can be problematic. Do not assume if it worked in a previous OS it will work OK in Vista.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

Those Programs you just mentioned do NOT run at all for me with Build 5308 CTP.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message The current build I have not installed hardly anything. The last build had many including Office 2003, FS 2004, CFS3, Nero 6, AVG and others. All of them worked flawlessly.
Looking at the installed programs does not really say much, how the program performs says a lot, actual performance suggests my computer functions well.
If you are having problems even after reinstalling, you possibly have a hardware issue. Possibly dissimilar memory sticks etc.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message Can you tell me the number of applications you have installed, (You can see the number of folders in Program files for a quick estimate) and how many large applications (like Office or Photoshop for example) you have installed?
thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org

They always did for me - except AVG at thats it? :os
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--: Original message follows :-- "Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

Those Programs you just mentioned do NOT run at all for me with Build 5308 CTP.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message The current build I have not installed hardly anything. The last build had many including Office 2003, FS 2004, CFS3, Nero 6, AVG and others. All of them worked flawlessly.
Looking at the installed programs does not really say much, how the program performs says a lot, actual performance suggests my computer functions well.
If you are having problems even after reinstalling, you possibly have a hardware issue. Possibly dissimilar memory sticks etc.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message Can you tell me the number of applications you have installed, (You can see the number of folders in Program files for a quick estimate) and how many large applications (like Office or Photoshop for example) you have installed?
thanks
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message My world of reality includes a computer significantly slower than that. Two recent builds of Vista works very well for me on an AMD 2400. I have upgraded my memory and video card to suit my needs. One of the programs I have very successfully used on that computer is FS 2004.
I have no need to try to imagine, since I can see the reality.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message

That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org

I'm talking to ati now trying to see if they are going to come out with a driver for vista for the 9000. I seriously doubt it though since they no longer support it. Would I be better off getting a new card now or waiting for a digital cable ready card and how much will a digital cable ready card cost when it comes out? Are there any sites that show what one of the digital cable ready cards looks like? thanks

I am using a 256 MB DDR VRAM NVIDIA GeForce 6800, which works just fine with Windows Vista Build 5308 CTP, which you can probably buy at a lower price right now (from an OEM Reseller like Newegg.com, for example), considering the fact that it is no longer the Newest Product that NVIDIA has on the market anymore (GeForce 7XXX Series is now their newest product on the market).
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
I'm talking to ati now trying to see if they are going to come out with a driver for vista for the 9000. I seriously doubt it though since they no longer support it. Would I be better off getting a new card now or waiting for a digital cable ready card and how much will a digital cable ready card cost when it comes out? Are there any sites that show what one of the digital cable ready cards looks like? thanks

"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

I am using a 256 MB DDR VRAM NVIDIA GeForce 6800, which works just fine with Windows Vista Build 5308 CTP, which you can probably buy at a lower price right now (from an OEM Reseller like Newegg.com, for example), considering the fact that it is no longer the Newest Product that NVIDIA has on the market anymore (GeForce 7XXX Series is now their newest product on the market).
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
I'm talking to ati now trying to see if they are going to come out with a driver for vista for the 9000. I seriously doubt it though since they no longer support it. Would I be better off getting a new card now or waiting for a digital cable ready card and how much will a digital cable ready card cost when it comes out? Are there any sites that show what one of the digital cable ready cards looks like? thanks
is it one of the vista media center cards that they are talking about that

will decrypt digital cable signals?

"Kevin John Panzke" wrote in message

I am using a 256 MB DDR VRAM NVIDIA GeForce 6800, which works just fine with Windows Vista Build 5308 CTP, which you can probably buy at a lower price right now (from an OEM Reseller like Newegg.com, for example), considering the fact that it is no longer the Newest Product that NVIDIA has on the market anymore (GeForce 7XXX Series is now their newest product on the market).
"michael e dziatkowicz" wrote in message
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message That is not a laptop it is a desktop. It should run Vista fine as others have already suggested.
Depending on the features wanted, memory and video card may need updating. But Vista should run fine without the upgrades depending on the uses of the OP.
-- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org
I'm talking to ati now trying to see if they are going to come out with a driver for vista for the 9000. I seriously doubt it though since they no longer support it. Would I be better off getting a new card now or waiting for a digital cable ready card and how much will a digital cable ready card cost when it comes out? Are there any sites that show what one of the digital cable ready cards looks like? thanks
does the card you are telling me about do tv recording and watching? I don't

see anywhere that it does. I don't see any nvidia cards that do that.

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